The Differences Between HAL TEJAS and JF-17 Thunder

Hello and welcome pretty much from Pakistan and India Also, this is part of our military playlist. I'm gonna put them in the cards in this blog also TSo to continue learning about many different amazing aircrafts and everything from militaries from around the world We look at two really unique fighters one Chinese and Pakistan and the other one originating from the country of India and with that we look at the differences between the Jf-17 and the hal tejas and find out if there is a big difference which one is better and perhaps which one is worse Let's go to everybody. 

What's up Dave Walpole here. Welcome back to FTD facts if you are a Reoccuring sort of subscriber if you're new here. Well, welcome to beauty facts for the first time. So today Yes, we are looking at fighters. Now. I love learning about different types of military aircraft from around the world It's just really cool to learn, you know, different specs and kind of what other countries have to offer But the thing is these two fighters for the people from these countries They might be very proud of them because yeah, they original they'll be in the description box below and at the end of the blog if you want to learn more just about militaries Trust me guys. 

We've done a lot of stuff on militaries It's really cool to kind of like put your mind out there. You know what I mean? So now let's take a look at these single-engine single-seat multi-role combat aircrafts both of them are classified as modern fighters as for which Generation they are it's really hard to say because there's nothing really down on paper however for the of-17 Although it is an older fighter many people consider that to be a four-plus generation fighter And as for the Hal Tejas because it's very recent. I could see it as a fifth However, keep in mind just because it's higher up in the numbers. That doesn't make it a better aircraft. That's not true So the of-17 has a really interesting history now its first flight was in August of 2003 however, it wasn't introduced for military function until March 12th of 2007 basically you had this fighter being made by two different companies one from Pakistan and one from China However, there are many different reasons why the two joined together to work on this fighter? First of all, there's a bit of an operational history I mean Pakistan has used Chinese fighters before but however at that time one of the biggest things was that these two-country wanted to produce a fighter that was comparable to the western fighters But was much cheaper to develop in 1989 China was working with a US company to develop what was known as the super 7 which was basically an Upgraded version of the Chengdu f7 Pakistan was also part of this program, which was known as project Sabre, however, unfortunately, The US company had to pull out due to the fact that there were heavy sanctions on Pakistan and there were heavy sanctions on China as well and what I mean by the fact that this fighter has a really interesting history Is these sanctions were put in place because of the famous Tiananmen Square incident? This is where you get this famous photo of the man standing in front of the Chinese Tanks that were brought in to break up the protest Obviously the United States didn't like that at the time so they said not we're not doing this anymore However by 1999 China and Pakistan had joined and signed a contract and that is when work really began Now in today's world, there is really not an actual number of how many of these are flying around They do say that there's over a hundred plus. 

I think it's somewhere around 120 somewhere around there and when it comes to producing this aircraft China has been making them since 2007 and Pakistan has been producing them since 2008 however, as for China interesting fact They do not fly this aircraft They make them and ship him to other countries around the world, as a matter of fact, the first full squadron of Jf-17 s was the number 26 black spiders which became fully formed on February 18th, 2010 with a strength of 14 fighters And by the way, the black spiders is a Pakistan flight squadron and speaking of Pakistan It's said that they operate about 99 of these aircraft currently in the combined history, though Pakistan has a hundred and one of these aircraft. However, a couple of them were lost due to accidents in 2011 There was an accident where the pilot did not survive and in 2016 one crashed in the Arabian Sea and the pilot ejected safely besides that the other countries that operate these aircraft are Nigeria in which they have three of them and the country of my Yanmar which is purchased 16 other countries like Azerbaijani has a deal in the works but other countries like Algeria Argentina Egypt Qatar I ran and many others have an interest in this fighter now jumping over Let's look at the HAL Tejas its first flight was in 2001. However, it wasn't introduced until 2015 but the history of this aircraft, it goes all the way back to 1983 at least it was at this time that India realized that they would need to replace their aging MIG 21s and by 1984 designs decided to go-ahead to build a new fighter for the country Interesting fact when it comes to this fight a lot of people identify it as the Hal Tejas but you could theoretically say it's the ad a Tejas and I'll explain why the reason for this as many people identify this fighter to be developed by the Hindu aeronautics limited and although that might be true most of the Responsibilities was actually under a company known as a DEA which is simply a consortium Company of over a hundred different companies known as the aeronautical Development Agency But to skip all that it was in 1993 that the first phase of this fighter began with a proof of concept and design Development testing similar to the of-17. 

There was also u.s Involvement such as Lockheed Martin was heavily involved in the development of this fighter, However, in 1998 they ended up pulling out simply due to the fact that India Well, did second nuclear tests and the United States really didn't like that, however, with all of that by 2001 they had several prototypes with a developmental cost of approximately seven thousand nine hundred and fifty-six decimal five-six crore testing for this aircraft would go on until 2015 when the IAF ordered 120 of these aircraft and today they are considered the new bad boys of the air and the first full squadron of these for the IAF was the number 45 squadron known as the Flying Daggers and they were formed on July 1st, 2016 now as for operators well pretty much You've only got one Country that's operating this aircraft partially due to the fact that it is brand Spanking new and that is the country of India. And even though they are very careful with this new fighter They have recently stated that they would allow friendly and neighboring countries to purchase this aircraft For example in January of 2019 Malaysia even had an interest in this fighter as for the current number of these Well, it's been said that India has 120 of them on order currently as of 2019 including prototypes There is only 28 of them made and keep in mind when it comes to the 120 I'm not a hundred percent on that because there are some mixed reports in 2016. They said that India also ordered 83 of them So I think it's 120. But again, there's some Miscommunication in media. They're moving right along. Let's take a look at some of the variants of these fighters So besides its prototypes the of-17 has three variants there is the of-17 block one And of course, block two which has improved avionics enhanced load-carrying Electronic warfare abilities and much more. Unfortunately, the original one did not have an air refueling capacity So they blocked two now has corrected that there's also block three which is the most recent which they added a helmet-mounted Display in sight multi-panel and function display upgrades to the radar and infrared and this all came in 2017 on top of that. 

There's also the jf 17 B, which is basically your two-seater version It has enhanced surveillance abilities and is somewhat used for training as for the Heritage as when it comes to its variants There's really only one type of them that is currently in use by militaries however There are other variants that have been built or are at least in future plans besides the MK 1 the MK or mark 1a Has increased radar which is the AES a radar which is developed with Israel It is also a thousand kilograms less and has more maintenance-friendly similar to the jf-17 The first original version did not have the capability to refuel in the air, However, the mark 1a fixes that there's also plans for the mark 1 Navy This one's to address major naval concerns And the biggest one is that is way too heavy For the carriers that they have and it should be able to take off on a small runway They also have plans for a mark 2. 

However, this won't be completed until 2022 it is aimed to have a more powerful engine which will help with increase load and as well There is radar infrared upgrades and onboard oxygen system upgrades as well So now let's take a look at how these stack up in other particular stats So looking at length, you got the jf-17, which is approximately fourteen point nine three meters You've also got the Hal to jazz, which is thirteen point two zero meters for its wingspan The jf-17 is a lot bigger with nine point four eight meters where the two jaws is eight point two zero Meters and for height the jf-17 comes in a little bit bigger at four point seven two meters where the tediz is Four point four zero meters basically the outage s is just a little bit smaller which could be helpful for dog fights or anything like that as for the max takeoff weight the Jf-17 has twenty nine thousand seven hundred and fifty pounds Whereas the hal tejas can have a total of twenty-nine thousand one hundred pounds speed However, the jf-17 can go to mach 1.6 and the two jaws can go to mach 1.8 the service sealing however The jf-17 can go much higher at fifty five thousand five hundred feet. Where the Tisha's Has a ceiling height of fifty two thousand five hundred feet now as for operational range This is including with drop tanks the jf-17 can go Approximately one thousand three hundred fifty two kilometers where the two jaws can go one thousand seven hundred and fifty kilometers For weapons though when it comes to these two fighters, ironically enough They both use the same guns because the jf-17 in the house has used a one x 23 millimeter twin-barrel cannon, which is known as the GS h twenty-three hardpoints though This is also where they defer Basically your jf-17 can carry seven x four underwing to under tip and one under the fuel Solange meaning that they can carry up to seven different types of weapons for example They can use air-to-air air-to-surface an anti-ship As well an array of different types of bombs from unguided to guided in total it can also hold three drop tanks and many counter Measures the Hal Tejas however has eight times hardpoints Six on the wing one on the fuselage and one beneath the portside intake trunk

There are Nimmons include air two air to surface and air to ship missiles and as for bombs they can have laser-guided or unguided bombs and they can also carry drop tanks and last but not least the one thing that we Got a look at is the cost of these two fighters for the of-17 for its bloc one original version It comes in at 25 million USD. However for its block 3, although it's not official and it is apparently planned It is said to cost 32 million USD cultish as its original version is very similar it sits at 23 million USD, and for the mk1 a for all of its upgrades It's said to jump way up to 64 million USD. So there you go guys That's me looking at the differences between these two fighters interesting enough. They are the more modern fighters from these two countries What are your thoughts on them? Which fighter do you think is better to be perfectly honest? I mean, I always say it's always down to the pilot because simply you see old fighters just totally obliterating new ones It's just kind of What happens but I want to know your thoughts and with that before you guys get out of here Don't forget to check out the military playlist if you like learning about different military topics and last but not least. I'm Dave, Walpole Thank you guys for tuning in and I'll see you guys in the next one.